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Frequently Asked Questions About the Library Closing (Updated February 23, 2011)

Cathy Russ - Posted on

(Updated information: May 17, 2011)

Why is the Troy Public Library closing?

The library is not funded in the city’s budget beyond June 30, 2011.

Why is the Troy Public Library closing on May 1, if you have funding through June 30?

Much like a store or other organization that is going out of business, there is much that needs to happen inside the library before the lights are turned out and the doors are locked on June 30. For example, an inventory needs to be taken, financial records reconciled, vendor contracts ended, the patron database needs to be made current and backed up, etc. These are things that cannot happen while the library is open. The library is a large organization and needs time to wind up operations.

What will happen to the library’s collection after the library closes?

The collection will be kept in the library for the immediate future. It will be stored and protected.

Will I have access to the library’s databases and the library’s website after May 1?

The library’s website will be available through June 30. Databases and downloadable audio and eBooks will be available on the library’s website through June 30.   After June 30, there will be no library staff to maintain the website, so the library’s website will not be updated beyond that date.

Databases offered through the Michigan Electronic Library are available to all Michigan residents, all the time, at www.mel.org.

When Troy Library closes, where can I go for library service?

We suggest that you contact the library that you are interested in using, and ask what that library’s policies are in terms of non-resident usage. Please ask a librarian at the Adult Services Desk or Youth Services desk for contact information for whatever library/libraries you may be interested in.

Can I still use other libraries between May 2 and June 30?

Again, we suggest you contact the library that you are interested in using, and find out what that library’s policy is.

What will happen to the library staff after the library closes?

Library staff will be laid off, effective July 1, 2011.

Will the Troy Public Library re-open?

Library staff is not aware of any plans to re-open the library after it closes.

Comments

Submitted by Glenn (not verified) on

 fire fakers (some of whom I saw sitting with families at the corner of 15 and Livernois enjoying the Clawson fireworks in front of a Troy fire truck as if on picnic.) fully staffed and paid like it's 1999, in fact, now that I mention it,

Posted by Dan on 3-23-11

Dan if you only knew that we are volunteers and that we assist Clawson every year during their fireworks you may think twice calling your fire department Fire Fakers. We train year round and we will respond to any city that calls us. We receive no money at all for being a firefighter in this city. The savings to the city is somewhere in the 10 million range per year. So trust me the fire department is doing its job. Just take a look at the buget for Sterling Heights and Warren and you will see how important we are to the City of Troy. I hope that clears things up for you.

 

Submitted by Beth Tetrault (not verified) on

Inviting Troy residents to a public showing of support for the library.  Join us on Monday, April 18th at City Hall from 7:00 pm – 7:30 pm. Make signs and bring the kids to put a face on who will be most affected by the shut down.

Submitted by Troy Resident (not verified) on

Its unbelievable what is happening in city of Troy. We moved to Troy a year ago from Rochester based on good reviews about the school district/diversity/library ...

I guess we made a wrong decision. My kids are young and they use library to the fullest...Its really sad to see this. lot of our friends who were interested in looking for homes in Troy are saying a big no no to Troy. We are doomed.

Library is the most basic necessity to any city...I dont know what else to say?

 

 

 

Submitted by kandiamo (not verified) on

It's precisely that a library is so loved that it's being threatened.  If there were threats of decreasing street sweepers, would people flock to approve a milage?

In fraud investigation, it's commonly known a business should not keep the same accountants longer than 2 or 3 years because the rate of embezzlement goes up dramatically as money is tracked and rerouted into (usually fake) companies.  It doesn't always mean accountants are doing the stealing, but it may mean they see and say nothing to keep the job.  A new accounting firm every once in awhile makes embezzlers nervous because they never know if one of them will be honest and become a whistleblower.  For this reason, corrupt governments like to recommend and then hire their own financial people.  

Because tax money often exceeds costs of actually running a city, large pools collect in coffers, tempting even the most dedicated of officials to put that money to better use - elsewhere.  This is particularly true if proof of spending to exhaustion means more government grants for the next year.  Government, which is necessary, is still a lucrative business, poorly monitored by its honor system while cloaked in its abstruse processes.

I'm not saying Troy is corrupt.  But the first thing citizens should do is monitor who is keeping track of city funds and get new eyes to evaluate the situation, preferably an independent agency skilled in financial crime, just to keep elected/internally recommended people on their toes. This is the same good advice any successful business should take.

Well, I hope you voted yes on the Library millage last November. That's why this is happening. Please do remember the role Troy Citizens United and Mr. Howrylak played in ensuring the millage's defeat.

Submitted by curious (not verified) on

Just curious, but then I may have missed the amount somewhere in all the emailing.  Just how much state aid was received for the library?  I keep reading that the library had to stay open 55 hours a week to get state aid, but how much does it amount to?

Submitted by SSK (not verified) on

It is so ironic! Troy Library is closing because they are NOT LETTING members pay. Now people like me, who are not eligible to vote on millages, would be going elsewhere and PAYING other libraries to get a card. We are READY to pay the SAME amount to Troy Library. But so, so ironic, the Library will not accept our payment. Other libraries will.

If just like other libraries that are going to charge us for the membership cards, if the Troy Library just charges for the membership cards, then it should not close. Imagine the number of members, and if all members have to pay for the cards (which in any case they have to if they go to another library) TPL will earn some revenue.

Right from the beginning of this discussion, there has only been reasons WHY TPL should close from the city side. The voice of the public is not being reaffirmed. It is going to cost our librarians their jobs. It is going to cost the students a great local resource. It is going to discourage more people settling in this town. Yes, having and not having a library will surely create such decision points for people moving into the region. The value will further deteriorate. Instead if the City makes ALL the effort it can, and KEEP LOOKING FOR REASONS to KEEP IT OPEN, then it would not be difficult to get ideas.

Why not start with the Question "What should we do to keep the Library Open" instead of "Why the Library should Close"

I think this may give some options and ideas, instead of working the other way round........

No, the library is closing because the millage was defeated. That millage would have cost the average family 150 per year. It takes ALL of Troy residents to support a library.

If 2,000 families volunteered to pay $100 a year for our library it would raise 200,000 a year which wouldn't pay for utilities. 

Besides it's illegal for a PUBLIC LIBRARY to charge its own community.

The problem is people like our County Commissioner Bob Gosselin paid $1500 of his family's money to FIGHT the millage increase. When powerful politicians are willing to work hard and spend their own money like water AGAINST the library, well, what power to crummy little families like mine have??????

Please go after the people like him and Howrylak and Troy Citizens United and Ed Kempen whose petition muddied the water and helped doom our library.

PLEASE blame the people like them and not those of us who broke our backs to try to save it.

Submitted by phlewa (not verified) on

Actually, the library might not close. Here are the details from last night's April 18 council meeting:

Last nite April 18, Robin Beltramini AGAIN!!!!! made another proposal to keep the library open, and for the very first time Slater did not immediately shut her down, and he finally agreed to listen to how Robin, Martin, and Wade want to keep the library open. Slater stated he "finally understands that the public might want to keep the library".

It has always been the 4 council members Schilling, Kerwin, McGinnis, and Slater who have consistenty voted to get rid of the library, and we only need 1 of those 4 to break ranks and join with Martin,Wade, and Robin in order to keep the library. Slater is wavering and perhaps, Slater might finally be persuaded to vote with Howrylak, Beltramini, and Fleming to keep the library.

It is not a done deal, we still need to keep the pressue on Slater in order to have him join with Howrylak, Beltramini, and Fleming to keep the libary, but from what he said last nite, it appears that Slater might come to our side. Lets hope that Slater can be persuaded to vote with us to keep the library, which would give us that 4th vote that we need to overrule Schilling,Kerwin, and McGinnis .

Submitted by Sharon J. Brown (not verified) on

Check the facts!  Consider history!  Educated, well-rounded, family-orientated people prefer cities with public libraries.  I would not have moved into Troy nearly 20 years ago if it had been void of library services.  The closing of this library is the biggest mistake Troy could make.  If the goal is to attract refined citizens who revere the great " American Dream," Troy must reopen the library!  It is not too late.  Pride must not stand in the way of admitting this mistakes! Remember "Pride goes before the fall."  I am praying that our cities leaders will gather courage to correct this regrettable misfortune! 

Respectfully submitted, 

Mrs. Sharon J. Brown

Submitted by Sue (not verified) on

For some reason, everybody has forgotten that only a year ago or so, the same city council that now needs a tax increase to keep the library open, wanted a bond issue to expand the library!  I haven't heard this mentioned in other replies, or in local papers about the closing.  The city repeatedly pays for outside entities to tell the city what it needs to do, even though the city has on its payroll city managers, assistant city managers, financial managers, etc. that are overpaid.  Giving options to the council about how money should be spent is their job!  We also have an aquatic center that could be put on hiatus for a period of time, a community center that could increase fees, etc., etc.  Those who have replied and are blaming those that voted against the millage for the library closing should look at the history of the council (over the past thirty years).  Whenever the council didn't look ahead and trim expenses across the board,  they ask for new taxes which are always presented as a temporary solution, and never end up going away. 

Submitted by Michael Davis (not verified) on

Funny, Of all the city Councel , only two hold library cards. Only Two do not play golf,
So,, We will have a wonderful city, with two golf courses that only 5 percent of the people even use once a year, Only the Rich upper set,
But Close the one and only Library  used by over 40 percent of the population, and is invaluable to the 50 percent whos imome makes use of the library a tool of educcation to help raise thier family.

 HUMMM 2 golf  courses for the Rich, and even increase funding
OR
Close the library.  Used my the majority.
Guess what our City councel voted for????
It closes in 28 days. and they (The councel ) could care less about you and I ,, the peasants. 
Time to fire the councel !!! I personnally will be looking into this process and starting it upIgnorance wins over intellegence once again.

 

Submitted by Vicki (not verified) on

It's a travesty that this library is closing, and it's being done out of spite because the people of Troy didn't give the City Council the tax increase they wanted.  There are hundreds of other places that could have been cut instead, but they chose to threaten the library because they thought we'd give in to that.  (After all, how many of us would run to the polls to vote for a tax increase if they threatened to lay off a couple of clerks in the Assessor's office?)  Why not charge a $10 a year fee for library cards?  Or grandfather previous card carriers charge new applicants $25?  How about charging for all DVD rentals? How about charging for Internet usage?  How about a self-checkout counter, reducing the number of employees required at the desk?  And what about the $1,000,000 that City Council allocated for a drive-up book return?  Where did that go?

The City Council wasted over a million dollars fighting Hooter's, a battle they had no hope of winning.  I'm not a fan of Hooter's either, but anyone can see it's a legitimate business, and the money spent fighting them was simply thrown down the toilet!

The City Council (with maybe one exception) should be living out of boxes right now, so that it doesn't take them too long to pack up after the next election.  This gutless, arrogant, and power-hungry crew has got to go, and the people of Troy have had enough!

Submitted by Literate Troy (not verified) on

Boy have you got all your facts wrong. 

1. Can't charge for "public library" usage. It's against the law.

2. Charging for DVD rentals wouldn't raise a couple million dollars.

3. The library doesn't have money to BUY a self checker outer.

4. There was no $1 million for drive-up. It was far less and those funds were long ago put back in the general fund.

5. I don't think it cost that much over the Hooters deal, but they sued us. Ask Howrylak, he voted against giving them the liquor license which lead to us being sued. Many of the current people were not on the council then.

6. If your one exception is Howrylak, make sure you blame him for 1) Hooters and 2) lying to the public about Proposal 1, which only lost by 6600 votes and would have saved the library and 3) TCU who proudly took credit for defeating Prop 1.

Get your facts straight, son.

Submitted by xtroy (not verified) on

I've lived in Troy since 1978, but left for NYC in 2004.  I guess I saw the future correctly (along with all the other young people leaving Michigan).  To give up this valuable resource for the children's future is more proof than I need that I made the correct decision. I feel for the city, but the cultural value of Troy for the kind of people that Michigan is trying to attract is minimal and frankly nil without a public library.  The city has no downtown and when I lived there I always marvelled at the beautiful library.  Now my retired parents have fewer places to go and I will advise them to move to the East Coast. Good luck Troy!

Submitted by Dan (not verified) on

What a joke Troy's management is.  The facts are that the bloated payroll of Troy needs to be redone, yes, that means that all these jobs need to be re-evaluated just like private industry did during the depths of the recession.  Yet for some reason, municiple employees think they are immune from reality.  CUT!  CUT! SLASH! CUT! but do it across the board evenly and fairly.  If revenue is down 20 percent, then you need to cut 20 percent. (See, I figured that out and told you and you didn't even have to pay me a consultant fee!) I hate to see the library close, I think it's a shame. But if that's the best example of leadership this city has to offer then so be it.

Keep the gestapo Troy police force and the fire fakers (some of whom I saw sitting with families at the corner of 15 and Livernois enjoying the Clawson fireworks in front of a Troy fire truck as if on picnic.) fully staffed and paid like it's 1999, in fact, now that I mention it, Troy's leadership problem is that they think it's 1999! They want to party like it's 1999 while the community realizes that it is an entirely different set of circumstances we live in.

So sad, so sad indeed, but the reality is that punishment is now being administered because the Troy voters did not let the leadership live in their own reality and give them their fantasy increase in revenue while they did little or nothing proactive to get their house in order.  GET WITH THE PROGRAM!  If you want an example of how to handle dwindling budgets you need look no further than the Troy school district, now if they asked for money I'd give it, they have been good stewards of the positions they are entrusted with.  The world is a different place, and will be for the distant future. 

Submitted by Glenn (not verified) on

Well I am one of those fire fakers. We assist Clawson during their fireworks every year. Yes we do make it fun BECAUSE we are volunteers and not paid for being a firefighter. We receive no money at all, yet we train many hours for a year to hone our skills. Maybe if you knew that you would think twice before calling us Fire fakers

Submitted by Stacey (not verified) on

I don't think there was enough brain storming on how to keep the library open.  Couldn't they have just kept it open 2 days a week or something. They could have cut back long ago.  It DIDN"T have to be all or nothing.  Why did they spend so much money on new materials if they were just going to close?  Poor, poor management!  It is a real shame!  Our kids are the ones who are going to suffer!

Submitted by phlewa (not verified) on

Actually, being open 2 days WILL!! work. So what if we dont get any state aid, we wont get any state aid anyways being open zero days a week either.  Besides, who do you think pays for "state" aid".  The taxpayers of Troy pay for "state" aid. Furthermore, keep the library open 2 days a week until we get an execption from the governor.  Even more drastic would be to keep the library open 1 day a week. Dont forget, that closing the library will not mean there will be zero cost to maintaining the building, it will still cost hundreds of thousands of dollars just to keep an empty building.  OPening the library 1 or 2 days a week will not cost that much more than paying to keep it closed.

Submitted by Laurie (not verified) on

Actually it was an all or nothing.  In order for any public library to receive state aid the library must be open a minimum amount of hours based on the population for that city and for Troy it is 55 hours.  As much as I enjoy our library I think they have been at bare bones for quite some time.  Even the last millage proposal to save it was for a level that the library used to operate at before they started cutting hours and services.  Sad to say that the residents of Troy wouldn't approve a small millage increase to make up the difference between state aid and basic operating costs.  Hopefully everyone will remember what they are losing (library and otherwise) when their property taxes go down AGAIN. 

Submitted by Cathy McIntee (not verified) on

I am sick to death of all the excuses I have heard about why we need to close the library.  What is our city council thinking? They have used the library as a scape goat to cover all the irresponsible spending habits of the past. They believed the voters would just open their pocketbooks for another dip into our wallets of never ending dollars. Well, guess what?  The voters said "live within your means - NOT that we don't want a library.  I could list a multitude of "pet projects" that have been funded and are used so infrequently, yet it is often nearly impossible to find a parking spot at the library because it is so busy with patrons who use and love this resource. The city of tomorrow?  I think not.  A city of educational excellence? I think that this reputation is already being damaged by the library closure and that the attractiveness of living in Troy will be irrepairably dimished due to this irresponsible action.  What are they thinking? 

Submitted by April (not verified) on

The Revenue base in Troy has drastically declined over the past few years, you know, during the recession. Maybe you've read somthihing about the current economic times we are living in.  There is no mismanagement, there are no slush funds.  The library is closing because the PEOPLE in in the city of Troy voted against 2 millages that could have kept it open.  Would you prefer to completely lose the police service?  Would you prefer to ruin your car on potholes?  Would you prefer not to have water come out of your faucet?  These are the types of decisions the council has been struggling with.  The library, even though we love it dearly is not a necessity.  Imagine living in a two income home, then suddenly having one person lose their high paying job.  Oh, by the way, that person doesn't qualify for unemployment benefits.  Now you have to live within your new means. Are you going to not pay your bills? Give up your house to keep your I-phone and satelite service?  Troy already has nearly the lowest tax rate for full service cities of our size.  The lowest when compared to neighboring communities.  Tax bills have been reduced as property values have dropped.  All the millages were asking for a small portion of that back to make ends meet.  I am willing to pay for high quality services I moved to Troy for.  I am willing to keep Troy the safe, friendly, beautiful place it was when I moved here. 

Submitted by Donna (not verified) on

I beg to differ with you saying a library is not a necessary is like saying a school isn't necessary. Home schooling children use public library services as well as public schooled children, and they use these services because they are free and parents can not afford to spend $125-150 a year for a card to another district. 

Submitted by Lisa (not verified) on

It is nice to finally see someone speak to the reality of what is going on here. I just don't think the residents realize how much tax money has been lost to the city because of so many businesses leaving, closing etc. Look around at the amount of empty places. Troy was able to enjoy business funding a nice chunk during the heyday....but it just isn't the case anymore!

Submitted by DJ (not verified) on

I humbly disagree.  The real issue here is that the majority of Troy residents who voted AGAINST a 2 mil increase are incredibly short-sighted.  It was not a question of cutting other services, it was a question of obtaining the funding.  Come on . . . 2 mils . . . it's not going to make or break anyone.  You're losing a cultural and community necessity - a meeting place, a place of cultural enrichment, a place to broaden your horizons and celebrate the community's diversity.  But, hey, at least each homeowner will have that couple extra bucks per month to order the latest Dwayne Johnson blockbuster on pay-per-view!

Submitted by dissapointed ta... (not verified) on

 Really? Is our 2 golf courses a necessity? Are brick roads a necessity?  How about our Aquatic center is that a necessity?Sorry don't buy it! Our city council has wasted an enormus amount of taxpayer money in the past, and now we have to pay for their bad decisions!

 I have seen empty benches and flower pots on Square lake and Rochester, for what? The bus stop that doesn't exist?

How about the park on Rochester and Big Beaver is was that a necessity?

The City overpays the Manager,  gives him a pension, and many other perks!  His assistants are way overpayed and the benifits whoa!

I'm sure there are people out there that  would take those jobs, and do it well , for less than the council is paying now!

Council always finds a way to waste more of our taxpayer money to have studies, exactly how much have you spent in the last 3 years on this? I'll bet the company that you pay is doing very well!

 Council can do better than this, but no they want to punish the voters that didn't find it possible to vote for a tax increase! Guess what council many of your citizens are jobless and hurting-they cannot afford your tax increase! Nor can they afford to buy the books for their kids, that they might have been able to borrow at the library! You are really hurting the youth in our city, did you not know this?  Seems to me that closing the library is the worst decision you have made- and be sure that come the next election many will be involved in electing and  supporting a new council they can trust, andone that understands the needs and priorties of it's citizens!

Submitted by Cheryl (not verified) on

It is obvious that Troy's revenues have plummeted with our property values.  Closing the library only brings them down more and reduces revenues further as would reducing the police department.  It is the paid job of city managers to renegotiate with unions and suppliers as well as bring new businesses to Troy.  Why are they keeping the Community Center open?  Why don't they privatized the water park and other city services?  The city managers want to punish the voters, so they are closing the library as a form of ransom.  THEY WILL ALL BE VOTED OUT.

Submitted by Janice Sutherland (not verified) on

The basic fact is that because of bad spending habits the Troy budget does not support our library.  I am not a golfer, and do not use the aquatic center.  I heard a comment at the Friends of the library used book sale, "you people voted yourselves out of this library now you can just go buy a library card someplace else".  Good idea!  So I went up north and applied for free library cards in Oscoda and Alcona County.  There are many small quiet libraries to patronize plus the woods, trails and beaches are wonderful places to walk and relax.  They have wireless networks, good computers, tax forms, reference materials, games, music, DVDs, and librarians that walk around and help meet your needs.  I have a lot of great used Troy Library books, new library cards, and invested in a new e-reader.  Now I can go anywhere to start a book club, write a book, or read to children.  Many people have said "we don't need a library".  All year long where do you see the most people, at the library, Aquatic center, Somerset Collection, or the golf course? 

Will the last person leaving Troy please turn out the lights.

Submitted by bonnie wheeler (not verified) on

I grew up in Troy and have always been proud of this city.  I am now a school teacher in northern Michigan and very distressed to hear of "the city of tomorrow" taking such a step backward!  Shame on the people for letting this go.  Troy has had so much compared to other cities that have fought to keep such institutions.  Our library is small, but is well used and appreciated.

Submitted by John from RO (not verified) on

While "up scale" Troy closes their library some of their "low rent" neighboring communities have found ways to not only keep their libraries open but have improved them.
I can only hope that Troy isn't really "the city of tomorrow today" and that this trend doesn't spread.

Submitted by Joe (not verified) on

This is just...  sad, really.

I've always been 'at home' in our library, and it hurts to see it closing.

Submitted by Phillip Kwik on

None of the Library's electronic resources will be available to the public once the Library is closed on June 30, 2011.

Submitted by Chuck Salgat (not verified) on

The barbarians are at the gates. Loss of libraries, loss of newspapers, overwhelming expenses for college educations. The list is endless. I've always believed the U.S. would never fall to external enemies, but would collapse from within. Take the cultural losses we are experiencing and couple that with the lack of civility in our political landscape and we see a frightening picture for the future. It is not unions, or public sector employees or immigrants or any other specific group that is the source of our problems. It is all of us not working together to reduce our problems. We are either in this together, or completely on our own. It is our choice.

Submitted by wc (not verified) on

You've hit the nail on the head.

Submitted by Pamma Chana (not verified) on

Library closing will work for the city's immediate budget.

What is the impact on the value of Troy homes. 

Troy does not have any attractions (downtown area/entertainment/amusement parks) -- it is known for its extraordinary academic reputation.  How does this reputation continue when we send a message to the country that a library for our residents is not a necessity?

Difficult economic times create challenges to draw people to our area and purchase homes for their right value.  I fear a worse drop in our home values.

Submitted by phlewa (not verified) on

What do you mean Troy has no attractions?   We do have attractions.

Troy has 2 golf courses, it has a solar home, it has red brick sidewalks, Troy has nature trails and we are spending more money to  build more nature trails, Troy has an aquatic center for juveniles, Troy will soon have a modern $10 million dollar brand new  Amtrak train station in Birmingham, etc. etc.

Troy taxpayers over the years have spent/forgone gobs of money for these attractions in Troy.  Troy also has the best paid city employees in the state -  Every cop and every teacher in Michigan wants to come here and work for Troy.

Troy HAS the money. Troy taxpayers pay over $70 million dollars in property taxes.The total city tax revenues in Troy are more now than they were 30 years ago when we had a much newer and growing library.

Troy taxpayers are taxed enough, the only problem we have, is in City Council trying to decide if we need a new train station...................... or should we keep the old library. 

 

 

Submitted by Nadia Ibrashi (not verified) on

It is tragic that the Troy Public Library, one of the finest libraries in the nation, will close. I hope that the city council will find a way to reopen it. It is a beloved place, a landmark in our communiity.

Submitted by Jim Melillo (not verified) on

In the next election, regardless of party, I am going vote out of office, espcially the Mayor and every City Council Member.  Closing of the Library is not the right thing to do.  The condition of the roads in the winter is the worst in the area.  If you are not happy with the road conditions in the winter also, vote these people out of office.

Submitted by Literate Troy (not verified) on

I hope you also blame the people for voting down two millages that would have saved the library

Submitted by A. M. V. (not verified) on

I am tired of people saying troy voters turned down voting for an increase in millage to save the library. There was one proposal put together by the "leaders" of Troy in a special election (at an extra cost to the city) that listed several areas of concern and one happened to be the library. It was not well thought out and rushed through.  There was no proposal put forth by this council on the regularly scheduled voting day. Instead there were 4 proposals put forth by various groups and one was only supposed to be voted yes on according to the Troy Public Library literature. This proposal was put forth by the Friends of the Troy Library. Unfotunately, there was a letter sent out by a council member (M. Howyrlak)and received approximately 2 days before the election telling the people of TRoy not to vote for any of the proposals on the ballot. This council needed to get its act together long before now. There should have been a proposal on the ballot at the regularly scheduled voting day supported unanimously by the council. The council needs to hear its citizens and find an alternative solution to keep the library open now.

I believe there are plenty of businesses in the city that would share the cost of keeping the library open at least until another election and proposal can be put together and passed. Special fund raisers may be an option. 

Submitted by Michael (not verified) on

People are losing their homes.  Losing their jobs.  And the city expects more money from them.  From what I have seen, there are ways to keep the library open, but the leaders of this city want what they want and if they can't get it, they will take away a vital part of our city.

A prime example of cutting off your nose despite the face.

For the record, I did vote for the library.  But learning more facts afterwards caused regret in that vote.

Submitted by phlewa (not verified) on

You are correct, City Council and the mayor need to learn how to budget cut, just like thousands of families in Troy have done. The problem is not that our taxes are too low, the problem is that Troy government spends too much and that Troy government does not know how to manage a budget.   The mayor wants to close the libary to prove a point, instead of finding a way to keep the library open, even if it is 1 or 2 days a week, even if it means we wont get a new Amtrak train station and no more red brick sidewalks.

Submitted by Vivian (not verified) on

Unfortunately by the time the next election happens,  it will be too late to keep the library's high standard in place.  Any lapse in its operation is disruptive and irreversible.  The dedicated employees will be foreced to find other means of employment, in some cases, moving out of the area altogheter.  The downward, escalating sprial just keeps moving, as Tina Turner sings a somber  rendition of "Proud Mary" as it happens.

Also,  her majesty the mayor is term limited out of office. Alas, she is safe from any threat of non re-elction and appears too weary of ever wanting a public postioin ever again in her lifetime. As for other members of the council who could seek re election they most likely would steer clear as well. They have dug a holes so deep that no ray of light nor drop of rain could ever pentrate its lowest point of surface.

Submitted by Jesse (not verified) on

Troy can't keep a library open, but Centerline can?  Warren is keeping 3 major libraries open.  Cutting funding to educational services is probably the least fiscally responsible idea in the long run.  Here are a couple , overly-simplified ideas:

1) Downsize the library- TPL is one of the larger libraries in the area.  Why not shut down part of the library, and shrink it.  Then we wouldn't have to lay-off all of the hardworking staff, and our citizens can still get their books.

2) Increase Taxes-  Hate to say it, but I'll pay a few extra dollars a year to keep these libraries open.

3) Fundraiser-  Troy Police will give you a ticket for sneezing the wrong way.  Maybe they could shift a portion of "Seatbelt Enforcement" fundraiser proceeds over to the library.  Or we could sell muffins and lemonade on the corner.   (We'll probably have to go through a lengthy permit hearing to get permission.)

Submitted by Marti Northrup (not verified) on

I think the residents of Troy should ban together and buy the library, rehire the staff at a reasonable pay rate and charge a small amount for a library card.  I heard the staff of the library are overpaid and it is not legal to charge for a library card for a public library.  If the library isn't a public library and the employees are not unionized, it could be run like a business.

 

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